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Report Suspicious Scores Here

Postby Izzy » Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:12 am

If you see a suspicious score feel free to report it here so administrators can look into it. Post any additional information that might be relevant.

-Examples of suspicious scores coming soon-
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Re: Report Suspicious Scores Here

Postby Wafles » Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:21 pm

Not that many people play with the intention of cheesing the leaderboards but there are a couple out there that I have noticed. The only one I'm positive about was juan.pro, who made 3 or 4 different accounts and suddenly had a huge MA boost (he was starting to compete with oldCartoon in MA...yeah). I think his main alternate name was (H)

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Re: Report Suspicious Scores Here

Postby houkouonchi » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:31 pm

Wafles wrote:Not that many people play with the intention of cheesing the leaderboards but there are a couple out there that I have noticed. The only one I'm positive about was juan.pro, who made 3 or 4 different accounts and suddenly had a huge MA boost (he was starting to compete with oldCartoon in MA...yeah). I think his main alternate name was (H)



Yes (H) and juan.pro has definitely cheated using the rate cheat as recorded in the DB. I have been busy but I need to reset the XP on all the accounts that have been abusing that.

Here is what the DB looks like:

Code: Select all

+----------------+----------+----------+
| Username       | rate/100 | count(*) |
+----------------+----------+----------+
| houkouonchi    |   1.2500 |        2 |
| houkouonchi    |   1.5000 |        2 |
| foxfire667     |   1.2000 |        1 |
| foxfire667     |   1.3000 |        4 |
| foxfire667     |   1.4000 |        4 |
| foxfire667     |   1.5000 |        1 |
| juan.pro       |   1.2000 |       40 |
| juan.pro       |   1.3000 |        9 |
| juan.pro       |   1.5000 |       33 |
| juan.pro       |   1.6000 |       28 |
| oldCartoon     |   1.3000 |        1 |
| blazIken       |   1.2000 |        1 |
| blazIken       |   2.0000 |        2 |
| AcapSc         |   1.2000 |        1 |
| Franko_        |   1.1000 |        1 |
| Hakulyte       |   1.1000 |        2 |
| owenviau1      |   0.5000 |        2 |
| owenviau1      |   0.7500 |        2 |
| owenviau1      |   0.8000 |        4 |
| owenviau1      |   0.9000 |       23 |
| owenviau1      |   1.1000 |        3 |
| owenviau1      |   1.2000 |        8 |
| Wafles         |   1.1000 |        2 |
| Wafles         |   1.2000 |        1 |
| Wafles         |   1.3000 |        4 |
| Wafles         |   1.4000 |        2 |
| Wafles         |   1.5000 |        3 |
| IronSheep      |   1.2000 |        2 |
| [HariZ]        |   1.2000 |        2 |
| ORMIX          |   0.1000 |        1 |
| ORMIX          |   1.4000 |        1 |
| ORMIX          |   1.5000 |        1 |
| ORMIX          |   1.8000 |        1 |
| ORMIX          |   2.0000 |        2 |
| jose9999999    |   0.7500 |        1 |
| jose9999999    |   0.8000 |        6 |
| jose9999999    |   1.1000 |        1 |
| jose9999999    |   1.2000 |        2 |
| Guilherme404   |   1.1000 |       29 |
| Guilherme404   |   1.2000 |       69 |
| Guilherme404   |   1.2500 |        6 |
| Guilherme404   |   1.3000 |       29 |
| Guilherme404   |   1.3300 |        4 |
| Guilherme404   |   1.4000 |       23 |
| Guilherme404   |   1.5000 |       43 |
| Guilherme404   |   1.6000 |        7 |
| Guilherme404   |   1.7000 |        4 |
| Guilherme404   |   1.8000 |        3 |
| Guilherme404   |   2.0000 |        2 |
| viper2k9b      |   0.8000 |        3 |
| Ov3rHell3XoduZ |   0.9000 |        2 |
| Ov3rHell3XoduZ |   1.1000 |        1 |
| Ov3rHell3XoduZ |   1.2000 |        1 |
| Steve          |   0.3000 |        1 |
| Steve          |   2.0000 |        3 |
| science        |   0.7000 |        6 |
| science        |   0.7500 |       15 |
| science        |   0.8000 |       70 |
| science        |   0.9000 |      888 |
| science        |   1.1000 |       14 |
| science        |   1.2000 |        8 |
| science        |   1.3000 |        4 |
| DjAlice        |   1.1000 |       35 |
| DjAlice        |   1.2000 |       12 |
| DjAlice        |   1.3000 |        2 |
| =^^=           |   1.3000 |       17 |
| kyo_1          |   1.1000 |        5 |
| Horjuan        |   0.8000 |        2 |
| kusa           |   1.5000 |       10 |
| VerTex         |   1.2000 |        1 |
| VerTex         |   1.3000 |        3 |
| Adroxx009      |   1.2000 |        1 |
| Joxus          |   1.9000 |        1 |
| (H)            |   1.2000 |        8 |
| (H)            |   1.5000 |       19 |
| (H)            |   1.6000 |       66 |
| (H)            |   1.7000 |        3 |
| (H)            |   1.8000 |       13 |
| ImWithstupid   |   1.1000 |        1 |
| Culobody       |   2.0000 |        3 |
| Matra          |   1.1000 |        1 |
| Matra          |   1.2000 |        1 |
| Matra          |   1.5000 |        1 |
| RoXoR          |   1.1000 |        2 |
| RoXoR          |   1.2000 |       11 |
| PoP-09         |   0.7000 |        1 |
| !CaMiX!^^      |   1.3000 |        1 |
| Kurosawakoi    |   2.0000 |        8 |
| ferroo         |   1.3000 |        1 |
| Zaruack        |   1.3000 |        1 |
+----------------+----------+----------+
90 rows in set (0.01 sec)


Now obviously some of these people just testing it but others are consistently playing on it. If on an older version of stepmania than upping the rate is a cheat and if a newer version of stepmania than lowering the rate is a cheat.

The third column is a count of how many songs they have played on that rate setting.

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Re: Report Suspicious Scores Here

Postby Wafles » Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:02 pm

FYI you should only reset the scores on 3.9, for example all my rate scores are legit from SM5. I'm pretty sure you just wouldn't blanket reset XP for people who have used rates but I just wanted to mention that yes, it is possible to play online legit with rates using SM5.

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Re: Report Suspicious Scores Here

Postby Adelphi » Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:55 pm

By 'rate' do you mean the speed rate? Or is there another option that 'rate' is...?

I'm downloading all the packs I like from the main website and wanted to know what this 'rate' stuff was before I started playing online. Are you guy's saying that we can only play StepMania Online with the default 2.0 rate?

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Re: Report Suspicious Scores Here

Postby foxfire667 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:24 pm

Adelphi wrote:By 'rate' do you mean the speed rate? Are you guy's saying that we can only play StepMania Online with the default 2.0 rate?

By 'rate', we are literally talking about an option that changes the length of a song and the steps within it. As in, a 150 bpm 2 minute long song would become a 300bpm 1 minute long song at a 2x rate. Due to the way the options are set up, you cannot alter the rate of a song while on SMO by default, as the option needs to be moved to the first page.

Using rate mods can make your play experience far more entertaining, as it allows for the ability to play even some of the easiest songs at a level which suits your current skill. This can create additional replay value of the files you've downloaded, as well as allow you to play with other SMO users of vastly different skill levels (making both parties completely satisfied with general entertainment from file difficulty). Info on rates during SMO play for SM5 can be found here if you re interested.

The problem arises when users affect the leader-boards with a glitch caused with rates in an older version.
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Re: Report Suspicious Scores Here

Postby Izzy » Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:08 pm

Adelphi wrote:By 'rate' do you mean the speed rate? Or is there another option that 'rate' is...?

I'm downloading all the packs I like from the main website and wanted to know what this 'rate' stuff was before I started playing online. Are you guy's saying that we can only play StepMania Online with the default 2.0 rate?


The default rate is 1.0 where the song is played back at the normal rate. Going to 1.5 rate increases the speed by 50% and 0.5 decreases it by 50%. Normally rate scores should not record to the leaderboards. (So I assume). Pretty sure that is how we implemented that.

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Re: Report Suspicious Scores Here

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Re: Report Suspicious Scores Here

Postby Cube » Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:19 pm

Wafles wrote:http://smonline.net/index.php?page=profile&uid=13495

Calling this guy out. LOL


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Re: Report Suspicious Scores Here

Postby Guilhermeziat » Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:56 pm

Oh look, I'm in that list

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Re: Report Suspicious Scores Here

Postby Ov3rHell3XoduZ » Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:11 pm

Well I am on that list too, well I want to explain in case I would be banned or I dont know.

I use Stepmania 5 Beta 3 BTW, I normally I play with rate 1.0x, songs are LV1 to 16 aprox.. I just play with rates 0.8x or 0.9x songs that are 19+ for practice only... Obviously this makes a invalid Score comparing Players that play the same songs at 1.0x

Now I dont know if I can still using low rate or just use 1.0x for practice.

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Re: Report Suspicious Scores Here

Postby Guilhermeziat » Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:05 pm

You guys should put a list on the homepage with how many times have we played songs on rates below 1.0.

EDIT: Not all of them, but like, the top 10, kinda like you do with the best players

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Re: Report Suspicious Scores Here

Postby sciencetherat » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:14 pm

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Re: Report Suspicious Scores Here

Postby Dragonforce_Smo » Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:36 pm

Are this guys hackers?

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When one of us get AAA the score is 9945678 for example and when we get AAAA the score is 10000000 or 2000000, right?

I play with science, and he get so many misses playing the song, I look at his combo and he misses all the time, like that:

1,2,3,4,5,...,40 ... miss ) x20
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,....20... miss ) x15

total misses: 35 misses

but at the end his score said:

Grade: AA
Score: 9256788
Percent: 91.46%
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Miss: 5
Combo: 1090


and my score is 9777777, percent: 97.56% but HE WIN ALL THE TIME

Is that possible?

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Re: Report Suspicious Scores Here

Postby Ziemniax » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:50 pm

cheater cheater pumpkin eater

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Re: Report Suspicious Scores Here

Postby Dragonforce_Smo » Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:27 pm

-_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-; -_-;

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See his three Full Combos and his marvelous:

Full Combo: 27 -- 26 ---- 40
Marvelous: 410 - 1103 - 1072

Isn't that illogical?

Or he is a excellent player but his FC is wrong all the time
Or he is a completly noob who cheating all songs

I wanna get AAA like him >:D

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Re: Report Suspicious Scores Here

Postby sciencetherat » Sat Dec 27, 2014 4:16 pm

The reason why my combo drops so much even when I'm FC'ing a song is because I'm on Judge 9.

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Re: Report Suspicious Scores Here

Postby SpaceGorilla » Wed Dec 31, 2014 8:22 am

Yes, that's true. I can say for a fact that sci uses judge 9 most of the time. Myth busted! :clown:
I'm from space.





And I'm a gorilla.

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Re: Report Suspicious Scores Here

Postby owenviau1 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:12 am

http://smonline.net/index.php?page=match&mid=2173520

@ENERGY is cheating on SMO. Banned Him Immediately!
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